I just had a feedback from a friend who just quitted Venture Era. He hate the way they do recruiting. I agree, I don't like it either. I realize that I was also involved in doing such recruitting, and I don't really like it.
But nevertheless, the products are still good. I still have some of the products with me. For example the water solution. It neutralize acidity content in the body. Whenever I drink so much sweet stuffs and begin to feel feverish, I will drink the water solution and the feverish feeling is gone, sometimes in a few minutes.
Sucky was of recruitting I would say, but good product.
Hello.. I dun think venture era ia good. N their products is sux.. Cos somethings can be as bad as tat..
ReplyDeletehey please do not spoilt the company's reputation la. this are all your own opinion, you dun really know how does it work la
ReplyDeletewhat I really think is that those watever pple thinks that the way VE does their recruitment is CMI, becoz those pple juz think is too good to be true or even doubt themselves whether they can di it anot? the industry has no problem, is the PEOPLE but u got to judge it by yourself, wat is right wat is wrong, I don wan to be like my parents work for stupid dam company for 30 yrs, yet their position in the company reamin the same coz they will never even get a chance to go to top.To all thosr pple who VE = Scam, ask urself this Qs, did VE force u ? if yes its really ur luck to meet such pple as they are not honest at all.
ReplyDeletei think there is a need to understand the difference between coercion with undue pressure and being voluntary. you can always use the cliché there was no gun pointed at your head, so it does not constitute to coercion. but if undue pressure, such as knowing you're in a hurry and do not let you leave until you buy a product, or consistently accusing you not being keen to contribute by not buying a product, etc, is exerted, then this is definitely not voluntary. the sale wasn't done because the buyer was convinced or needed the product for consumption. this, to me, is unethical.
ReplyDeletenow let's start asking this question on the fence. if you've gotten a poor product/service from a representative of a company, will give the feedback to that representative or to someone else in the company? if no corrective action is taken, do you perceive the problem as it's just your luck or it's the company having a problem? this is a subjective question, but try to think of the general public's perception and see if their comments are irrational.
one more part to add. the traditional way to see if the company is really going to be successful, you just need to look at the structure. if you look at the big names in MLM, it's not difficult to find people of different ages, but most importantly, it's not having the majority of people barely 21 or even 18.
ReplyDeletewhy do i say that? it's all about life experience. you can argue that the older people who are not in MLM are myopic and do not appreciate the potential of the business or they are just not entreprenuerial or adventurous. but this group of people are the ones who have better hindsight and more pragmatic. success is not built because of good foresight only. if you do not learn from history, you will make the same mistakes.
i'm not saying the younger ones are incapable. but the fact is the younger you are, the less you would have experienced or know in life. some will say they're naïve. that makes them easier to target for unethical purposes or worse, being used. this is a FACT.
so back to the the question, if the company is good, if people are defaming them because of jealousy, if the potential of at least getting steady income is great, why aren't there many "not-so-young" individuals working there?
remember one more thing. how confident are you in the products real efficacy? in medical science, everyone knows what is placebo effect. try asking your MRI doctor about the penetration of the magnetic field, etc, and they can educate you very well. do a bit more google search on reputable medical websites and try using that knowledge and ask the sales representative about the answers gathered. you can argue that as long as it works, who cares if it's real or placebo. BUT, why pay so much for a placebo pill?
ReplyDeleteif it's real effect, let us see some validated medical certification, e.g. FDA, HSA. go validate yourself. or even better, check it with your GP or specialist. seeing is believing. my friend is an expert in graphics can easily make a convincing one with his pair of wonder hands. so do not just promote something that you can't even verify yourself.
I was in Venture Era before. I joined in July 2006, and left in Oct 2006. Back then, the company was in Robinson Point.
ReplyDeleteThis business structure is just like selling insurance. It's either the distributor purchases the product himself first and use it, then share the testimony with people how good the product is, or the first client the distributor would go to is his/her family members. That is the norm. I'm not surprised.
I remembered some of the distributors tried to cold-call using some unethical phone techniques, as what I felt.
First, the upline, can be at least a Marketing Manager, or MM, to write down on a Market Listing piece of paper, all the contacts of the downline, from A-Z. The Market Listing would be kept by the upline. I ain't sure what would be done to the Market Listing. But when the distributor calls the cold-contacts, and when the recipient on the other side of the phone asks,
"How do you get my mobile number?"
The caller, a.k.a distributor, would say things like,
"We got your mobile number from the Human Resource Department. Our company has links with headhunting companies, and also various educational institutions like Junior Colleges, Polytechnics, ITEs, etc..."
OR
"We got your mobile number from the Student Union from your school."
Following that, the caller would carry on, saying,
"We're currently short-handed OR in need of manpower in various positions, which includes:
Sales & Marketing
Administration
Human Resource
so on and so forth."
But of course, innocent recipients on the other side of the phone do not suspect anything. But words have been spread to such innocent people, telling them to be wary of such phone calls.
Not that Multi-Level Marketing in Venture Era is illegal in the eyes of the law, but I just find some of the methods they use to get things done are rather unethical. Of course, as distributors, you may have many reasons to rebutt against the viewpoints of people who do not feel that MLM is what they want.
Furthermore, now that Sunshine Empire has been blacklisted and the company collapsed, people would definitely be even more skeptical about such business models.
I was in Red Falcon, Steven Ho Sheng Ming's house. According to my upline, who was a Business Manager (BM), and had hit her car incentive, she left Venture Era sometime in 2008, particularly because of a refund case that amounted up to S$35,000. When I learnt about this case, I looked back and was glad that I did not stay for long.
In my point of view, being in the military is still the stable job, that guarantees a stable income, whether or not it may be enough for survival. But whether or not you work, you still get your pay on the payday.
It's best to be transparent with people about Multi-Level Marketing, rather than trying to 'scheme' your way through to get your recruitments.
Recently they resort to selling your number.
ReplyDeleteWhen ever I got surveyed by the never changing survey questions. I entertain them. Give them my number, but left fake name.
Up to 2 other companies such as Califonia Fittness call me with that name.
They are evil. You will know once you step into their office. They even steal pens =.=